Neuer Brief an Martin Roosli. Ich glaube, Martin ist ein sehr kluger Mann, aber sehr fehlgeleitet, und keine formale Qualifikation in Medizin oder Biologie zu haben, macht ihn meiner Meinung nach ungeeignet, BERENIS oder EMF/Gesundheitsgruppe zu leiten. Ich glaube auch, dass er einen intellektuellen Interessenkonflikt hat, was bedeutet, dass man an einer Ideologie hängen bleibt und sich damit identifiziert -- oder das Gefühl, das es einem gibt, Teil einer so mächtigen (und doch bösen) Organisation wie der ICNIRP zu sein, die grösstenteils vom deutschen Äquivalent der BAFU finanziert wird, die sehr industriefreundlich ist -- und man wird von den Großmächten verehrt (die Industrie LIEBT Martin) -- oder sogar einige Leute bekommen einen Kick daraus, gegen das zu sein, was dem Gemeinwohl dient. Ich hoffe, dass er eines Tages zu den Fakten aufwacht, aber das mag Wunschdenken sein. Einige der Fakten sind hier dargelegt: https://emfcrisis.yolasite.com/videos-by-doctors-and-scientists.php
New letter to Martin Roosli. I believe Martin is a very smart man, but very misguided, and not having any formal qualifications in medicine or biology, makes him unfit, in my opinion, to head BERENIS or EMF/health group. Also I believe he has intellectual conflict of interest which is when you get stuck on an ideology and identify with it -- or the feeling it gives you to be a part of such a powerful (yet wicked) organization like ICNIRP which is funded largely by German equivalent of BAFU which is very pro-industry -- and you're adored by big powers (the industry LOVES Martin) -- or even some people get a kick out of being opposed to what's common good. I'm hoping some day he may wake up to the facts, but that may be wishful thinking. Some of the facts are laid out here: https://emfcrisis.yolasite.com/videos-by-doctors-and-scientists.php
1 Nov 2020
Reply to Martin Roosli, by Reza Ganjavi
Hi Martin - finally got a chance to listen to this the audio segment you sent me. It's standard ICNIRP, pro-industry misinformation, shooting down NTP, etc. -- you guys (ICNIRP) have been cunningly ignoring good science for a long time, in favor of your industry. If you can't see the link (German government industry backers support of ICNIRP - just as in Switzerland BAFU is supporting disgusting places lie FSM and is acting like industry spokesperson when responding to Swiss public -- repeating the same lies y'all repeat, that RF exposure is safe (which it's not) using the excuse of standards that totally ignore biological impact. This is bad. This is evil, if you agree that people's health -- holistic well being and not just being alive -- is their most important asset.
You're a very smart man but you don't have the right background (medicine, biology) to grasp the necessary subtleties that e.g. Dr. Hardell has been trying to point out to you -- and you are too caught in nuances of statistics to see the forest for the tree. I think psychologically too, you're getting a kick out of getting loved by the industry (I've seen how ASUT folks adore you) -- the whole topic of attention is a very complex one. Killer of John Lennon wanted to get famous.
I believe you are also driven by intellectual conflict of interest -- you're fanatically stuck to an ideology that is extremely dogmatic. Again, you seem too caught in the nitty-gritty detail to see the big picture, which is BIOLOGY!!
So here we are, a tiny country, the world looks up to us, envy of the world in terms of natural beauty -- and one of our best scientists is batting for the industry, and either doesn't get it, or is too caught in fanatic thinking to see the big picture. As a result of that, and the deceptive practices of the very industry you bat for -- the lies they tell people -- and the deceptive practices of the government (e.g., telling people exposure to RF radiation is safe despite a huge body of evidence that it is not) -- we're left with a country which is extremely polluted. Your industry buddies haven't left any stone un-turned.
The industry you support has ruined almost every corner of our beautiful country with RF pollution which is DNA-damaging, which cause oxidative stress FAR more than eating apples !! I know you told students at ETH food also causes oxidative stress so RF is ok but it's not -- the levels are far different. And so on and on.
And you carry a big responsibility in this. So I invite you to repent -- to give up your fanatic beliefs -- and help dismantle, obliterate and dissolve ICNIRP from within -- it's a shame of an organization that should shut its own doors and be redefined by neutral parties. This will get you a lot of good karma. Going the path which is against people's health and well-being, while maintaining decades-old standards that are very profitable to the industry, doesn't pay off.
Yes there's also been a lot of garbage in the airwaves, mind boggling conspiracy theories like Covid-19 is not a virus or we're not in a pandemic -- but listening to this cunning reporter who's robotically reciting wireless industry lines he's given, wasn't any better. For example, trying to assess 5G while ignoring the huge body of evidence and studies that exist on RF-EMF, is very cunning and manipulative -- or downplaying risks of WiFi (which Swisscom even mentions in a patent filing as DNA-damaging at sub-thermal levels) using extremely weak arguments.
Here goes another government channel again, trying to brainwash people to think RF-EMF is biologically safe (which it is not) to deceive people in favor of the industry -- this is evil!!
Regarding supplements, I do take a lot of high quality supplements myself but not from one source -- I buy from 3 different discount vendors in the USA.
You're right about gullible people who fall for nonsense, unscientific voodoo and woowoo gadgets and spent lots of money on it to get placebo effect. It's probably much more dominant in rich countries. In most of the world people can't afford 1000 franc for a piece of garbage that's supposed to protect them from EMF, with no peer-reviewed science to back it up :-)
A Danish reporter wrote to me asking questions about Dr. Hardell's letter. My response below. Kind Regards. Reza Ganjavi
Please see my comments below. Perhaps Dr. Hardell will add his own comments.
Keep in mind, while I contributed to the letter, the bulk of it was written by Dr. Hardell. And I am not a spokesman for him -- just expressing my own opinions.
"Because my research is only funded by public money [blah blah]..." [this statement is a lie in itself since later in the email he contradicts himself]
Conflict of interest is not just financial. It's also intellectual. A dogmatic, fanatic person who blindly believes in a false set of ideas, may not get profit from it, but he gets other benefits, like identification.
"ICNIRP has a very strict policy [blah blah]... "
The letter addresses why ICNIRP is intellectually corrupt as it's been distorting the science just as Mr. Roosli has been distorting the science, and lying to people about health impacts of RF-EMF. Some of these lies are clearly demonstrated in the letter. ICNIRP has an utterly industry biased. Also their donors are not all listed -- and some already have a very close tie with the industry.
"It is the tone of activists, who do not talk about scientific facts but just attack persons."
Poor Mr. Roosli. Finally someone is calling out his lies, and he doesn't like it. He's used to getting away with his lies to unassuming Swiss public, media.
Funny Mr. Roosli didn't detect the science in the letter. The letter is 90% hard-core science!! I guess it's because he's not an oncologist, medical doctor, biologist -- it flew right above his head.
The letter is not the tone of activists per se. It's the tone of real scientists who are specialists in areas Mr. Roosli has no clue about, like oncology! Roosli has neither a biology degree nor medicine degree, yet the highly pro-industry Swiss government with inherent conflict of interest (51% owner of Swisscom) has put him in charge of two most important health authorities! This is not a joke. It's a tragic reality.
In several direct exchanges with Dr. Hardell, it became apparent that Mr. Roosli does not have the educational background to understand what Dr. Hardell was talking about -- it was over his head. So Roosli just sees things through his own fanatic, myopic, small-minded, industry-biased view which is no surprise given his past conflicts of interest and ties with the industry. Still today, he's very closely tied to the industry. It doesn't matter if they pay him a kickback or not -- we know they try to protect him, and they absolutely love him, as he's instrumental in their attempt to brainwash and lies to Swiss public that this DNA damaging, cancerous radiation is safe.
"Would be much more convincing if Lennart would response to this criticisim in a scientific manner instead of sidetracking."
Oh poor Martin, now he's picking issue with the venue. The substance isn't going away.
"yes, the money comes from industry..." [blah blah... and then he admits to get money from industry!]
EMF Risk Research funded by industry has had a history of moral corruption.
I agree with Roosli that the funding should come from the wicked industry, but not the execution of the studies. These need to be totally impartial and not as puppets of a morally corrupt industry which is on record for lying to people about the most important topic in life: HEALTH!
"interesting enough... donations from scared people and activists."
This is a loaded, bad question. Scared people? This is totally an industry line. It's Roosli's industry talk -- this whole concept of "Scared people" is a misnomer -- it's a way for the wicked, morally corrupt industry to downplay real concerns of real people, by just attributing it to unfounded fear.
"Maybe Hardell can answer: Are 5G appeal scientists making a living out of activism like Röösli claims? Is it a conflict of interest recieving money from activists and how much can they earn?
Dr. Hardell does not need a penny of activist money -- he's a very successful, top notch oncologist. This is the lamest excuse of Roosli -- and a desperate line that shows he's got no other defense.
How about his defending his misrepresentation of science which Dr. Hardell points out with clear evidence? No reaction from Roosli I guess on that. That's a bigger problem than Conflict of Interest. It's intentional misrepresentation by a person at top of the food chain of government, working with a government that itself has a conflict of interest, feeding people lies. Wonderful!
Another question for you, Reza.
- Can direct democracy possibly defeat 5G in Switzerland? We saw a poll in 20 Minuten finding a majority of the Swiss population against 5G.
Yes I believe so -- with big action and big thinking. There are multiple initiatives in the works.
However, my personal view is legal action will have bigger results, not in Swiss courts which are generally (with exception) highly biased, but by higher authorities like the European Court of Human Rights.
"Can we expect a direct election in Switzerland in the near future?"
Not this year. The initiatives take time.
"How can it be explained that exactly the francophone cantons i Suisse has voted against 5G. Is the country divided into language zones?"
Yes the country is highly divided. I was the first activist which reached out to the French side for collaborative campaign on 5G. The German side is more passive, and more conditioned to trust the authorities, not question status quo -- the French side is more like France, more active in some ways -- and we saw more action there than in German side early on. But there's some action on the German side and the biggest activist organizations are now based in the German side. I am in close contact with them.
"What makes you optimistic?"
You asked if it can be done, I said yet. Am I optimistic? Not too much because Switzerland is a very passive country and people are not used to complaining or taking big action -- it's not like France. They simply don't have strikes in Switzerland for example. And the educational system conditions people to conform.
"And what could go wrong?"
Wicked industry continues to brainwash people and win their votes.
MBA, BSCS, BA Phil, Magna Cum Laude, Phi Kappa Phi
Also see: Dr. Hardell exposing Martin Roosli's Conflict of Interest and Misrepresentation of Science (lies)
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